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post #11 of 42 (permalink) Old 02-20-2017, 08:54 AM
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post #12 of 42 (permalink) Old 02-20-2017, 09:28 AM
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I had Conti DWS06 on my `16. They were quiet and performed very well, even in the rain. Because my Speed 3 is such a torque beast I`m pretty much forced to run an ultra performance summer tire so the Pilot Super Sports were the answer there. Quiet, great grip, and decent tread life; the exact opposite of the Nitto NT05s I was going to run (well, except for grip.Those particular Nitto tires are nothing short of drag radials).
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yoko advans ad08r. they're R compounds.
I believe that they are Extreme Performance Summer tires, a step below the sort-of R-compounds like the Yoko A048, Nitto NT01, and Toyo R888. True R-compound tires are a noticeable step up from those three tires, and you wouldn't use them unless it was on a race track.

See: https://www.tirerack.com/tires/yokohama-tires.jsp; and
here: https://www.tirerack.com/tires/surve...ay.jsp?type=EP

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hmm interesting. the "info" of yokohama australia website states "the new "R" tyre compound...". i guess the write up varies from tirerack and yoko.au never really used US websites as i can't get most of the stuff anyways. but i definitely agree with you that they're below the R888 and not full R compound like slicks if you want to put it that way.

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I believe that they are Extreme Performance Summer tires, a step below the sort-of R-compounds like the Yoko A048, Nitto NT01, and Toyo R888. True R-compound tires are a noticeable step up from those three tires, and you wouldn't use them unless it was on a race track.
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hmm interesting. the "info" of yokohama australia website states "the new "R" tyre compound...". i guess the write up varies from tirerack and yoko.au never really used US websites as i can't get most of the stuff anyways. but i definitely agree with you that they're below the R888 and not full R compound like slicks if you want to put it that way.
The Yoko AD08R is not a true R compound tire, not really. These have a wear rating of 180 so they are pretty soft. It may have been considered an R compound tire a few years ago but the new R compound tires are much improved since then. These tires and a few others like the RE 71 are probably stickier than real race tires were some time ago, now that level of grip is considered a street tire.
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what kind of life did you get on the OEM? How does it compare with the Ultra high performance tires such as the Michelin Pilot Sport/Pirelli P0/Conti DWS06? Assume aggressive driving.
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what kind of life did you get on the OEM? How does it compare with the Ultra high performance tires such as the Michelin Pilot Sport/Pirelli P0/Conti DWS06? Assume aggressive driving.
For me, ~500 miles. They were all around crap and replaced.

The DWS06 is hardly a "high performance tire". Its an all season sport tire. The PZero is high performance summer tire . Big difference. The Advans are a step above those even.
Which Michelin are you referring to? The Pilot Sport name covers a wide range.

Sticky high performance tires like the Michelin Super Sport don't last long in any event. 10k, 15k miles maybe. Add to that the compound starts to get hard after a year or so and they loose their grip. Mostly they are good or one or two years regardless of miles. If you drive aggressively and/or do autocross/HPDE or track days, figure on at least one set a year.
Extreme tires like the Advan AD08R you might get 10k if you are lucky and don't get too crazy to often. Tires like these have a life measured in hours when used in a competition environment

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when looking at performance tyres, i doubt the first thing that come to mind is the longevity. they'll last within the thread depth and are good for 15-20k KMS at least, but anything above 8-10k aren't as grippy as it's supposed to be. i've just about reached the 10k kms mark in my advan ad08r and they're starting to slip under hard acceleration..

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Managed to get 45k out of my stock dunlops, went with 18" Continental DWS 06, I love them.
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Like most all-seasons, the stock Dunlops are compromise tires, trying to do-it-all, but they do nothing well. While driving in the rain this past weekend, realized how low grip they are in water. The car deserves rubber that better matches its chassis so I'm thinking of replacing them. In the past I liked to run extreme summer tires like Dunlop Direzza Star Spec, Yokohama AD08, or Bridgestone RE11, loved their immediate response and predictable grip in dry and wet at expense of ride and wear. But for this car, I'm thinking something more comfortable but still deliver grip and responsiveness, which puts me in max summer category.

I want to try the new Michelin PSS replacement PS4S, even though I hated the PSS when tried on two different occasions. Sticking to oem size really limits options, but most likely go with Bridgestone S04 PPs. I remember they have stiff sidewalls, good predictable grip, quiet, and wear well. Good value too at 133 per on tirerack.
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