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post #101 of 108 (permalink) Old 02-14-2017, 01:30 PM
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If you have well-designed normal brackets like Progress uses, then I think the billet brackets are unnecessary.
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it seems like a lot of folks have problems with clunking and noise
Mostly due to improper installation, not design issues.

If you use the right endlinks, grease the bushings and torque the fasteners properly you should be ok.
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How do front and rear sway bars affect snow/ice driving? I'm leaning towards getting these but don't want make my winter driving any more difficult!
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They don't.
You don't need a larger front for street driving.
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Was reading but didnt seem to see anyone change the endlinks before adding the progress sway bar, would it be recommended to do so or is it fine to not change it?.
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Was reading but didnt seem to see anyone change the endlinks before adding the progress sway bar, would it be recommended to do so or is it fine to not change it?.
Really?? Where have you been looking? Lots of posts on that too.
Here are three I found with a couple minutes of searching-

http://mazda3revolution.com/forums/2...-rsb-pick.html

http://mazda3revolution.com/forums/2...end-links.html

http://mazda3revolution.com/forums/2...sb-struts.html

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I am buying my Progress RSB within a few weeks (have been busy taking advantage of the warm weather on weekends motorcycling =D) but their website states that it's designed for use with the stock endlinks. I'll probably be giving them a call to confirm. I'm going to guess that whether you need endlinks is, "it depends".

My personal thoughts are that the endlinks were designed for OEM spring rate and ride height, so they could be strained (tension) by a stiffer RSB; but at the same time, if you're not doing anything else with your suspension (lowering) that would cause binding or unnecessary additional strain, the benefit of adjustable links in particular can be dubious. The endlinks are fairly easy/cheap to replace so if you know you're not going to do anything else with your suspension and you're using the progress RSB on soft setting, forget about it unless your OEM ones are shredded already for whatever reason. If you know you're going to be doing other suspension modifications, then invest in them right off the bat.

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I am buying my Progress RSB within a few weeks (have been busy taking advantage of the warm weather on weekends motorcycling =D) but their website states that it's designed for use with the stock endlinks. I'll probably be giving them a call to confirm. I'm going to guess that whether you need endlinks is, "it depends".

My personal thoughts are that the endlinks were designed for OEM spring rate and ride height, so they could be strained (tension) by a stiffer RSB; but at the same time, if you're not doing anything else with your suspension (lowering) that would cause binding or unnecessary additional strain, the benefit of adjustable links in particular can be dubious. The endlinks are fairly easy/cheap to replace so if you know you're not going to do anything else with your suspension and you're using the progress RSB on soft setting, forget about it unless your OEM ones are shredded already for whatever reason. If you know you're going to be doing other suspension modifications, then invest in them right off the bat.
The stock endlinks are weak. They are held together by those orange plastic bits you see on the back. Much stiffer bars such as the Progress will overstress those weak links and they can fail. When replacing the OEM bar you should use stronger endlinks. If you are changing the ride height, you need adjustable links. The sway bar is supposed to be in a certain position relative to the rest of the chassis and suspension to work properly. Once you lower the car those relative positions change and you get a decrease in functionality.

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