Lol well, OVTuning is developing a supercharger kit from Edelbrock for the ND Miata which could fit the Mz3 with some modifications. Mat posted some numbers on the Facebook tuning group with peak hp at 216 on dyno.

 

For the 2.5 they said like 280-300 whp that is crazy

 

Who is "they" and where?

 

What's bbr kit?

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from what i read is that they were looking to do it for only the 2.5L, however they had a link to submit a request for the 2.0L. If they do go forward and create this and leave out the 2.0L owners, I feel they will be leaving a lot on the table. Also 300 whp is way to far fetched for our vehicles, i feel best estimate is 205-215, like arathol said the BBR kit is close to 210.... Id likely be very interested in purchasing it though

 

For the 2.5 its going to be over 210bhp....i say this because otherwise they wont have much of a business case given the price of a typical turbo kit. E.G. no one would buy it. Considering they are bringing it to market, they must have some decent power gains.

If were talking whp, ok great, sounds reasonable.

 

What kind of price point would we be looking at for this thing?

 

Depending on whats in the kit, $6-7k would not be out of line after all is said and done. That is about what MX5 kits are selling for.

 

$6K-$7K is WAYYY too much for a turbo kit, even if it included tuning software and an EFR turbo, plus everything else, its still too much. I sincerely doubt they would ever sell more than a handful of these at that price point. It would have to include install and custom dyno tuning, essentially ship the car to them at their cost, they install and dyno tune, then ship the car back with custom live tuning updates to accommodate your altitude, air density, ect, after you drive it a week or so data logging for them. All that for 210whp........even if it was 230whp that's not nearly enough of a gain to warrant all of that money invested. For the same cost you could have a boosted FRS/86/BRZ with 350whp running on an EFR turbo making near instantaneous boost, plus the cost of the car of course.

 

I agree. Since when did the days of 3k turbo kits disappear? I mean, I know they have to account for all the R&D but still seems pricey.

Having said that, count me in for one when it's ready. Would Love to boost this thing for the ultimate daily for me, IMO.

 

Price point and support for the 2.0 are the two things I'm worried about right now. If either one fail I'm probably just gonna pick up a side project like I've been talking about doing for awhile now.

But damn a turbo Mazda 3 would make me happy.

 

we agree to disagree

 

If it makes anywhere around 250 to the wheels 5k or under count me in. Or if it allows me to beat those pesky Charger and Challenger RT s than count me in.

 

Hello People....
I have a 2015 MZD 3 2.5, and i really hope someone comes up with a Complete Turbo Kit for these models...
I´m a Turbo Lover, and by the time i bought the car, mazda no longer had the turbo versions, and for the $ i had, i could not go to other brand/model...
Anyway, i´m happy with the car, but missing the Turbo Kick...
So, if someone comes up with the Turbo Kit, i would be willing to lose the cars waranty...

Cheers guys... I will stay tuned...

 

I read somewhere corksport are developing a kit.

 

I wish there were a simple way to get back the power I'm losing by living in Colorado. My 2.5 MT is plenty fun already, and it's a rocket compared to my previous cars. But just once I'd like to know what it feels like at sea level. Alas, kids/mortgage/etc. means no $$$ for turbos, project cars, or other shenanigans. Maybe an OV tune one day. Or I could move back to FL.

Nope. Screw that.

Next road trip to lower elevation however, we're taking my car instead of the wife's CR-V. Then we'll see what's up!

 

I feel ya, Im near the Rocky Mountains in Canada with an elevation of 3573feet here, Im definitely losing more than I want to be. I will probably try to take a trip to Vancouver next summer for a week or so and hopefully get a feeling of what this engine is actually pushing at/near sea level.

 

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Hello I’m a Mazda owner and I’m interested in the turbo kit.
Hope to hear from your reply soon.

 

Hello I’m a Mazda owner and I’m interested in the turbo kit.
Hope to hear from your reply soon.

https://corksport.com/ is who you'd want to direct that to.

 

I am losing faith.. perhaps I need to look at building my own kit without blowing anything up..

 

You do that. I'm sure the rest of the Mazda community will be watching your progress intently.

 

scared .. detonation

 

Early to mid next year by my sources, of course giving some extra time. I would still wait for the warranty to run out. Only 44k left for me! Currently they are unsure if the AT can take the extra power but the turbo works so we may see it for manual only or a disclaimer warning AT drivers. Also, 2.5 only (for now) I think.

 

Fortunately for me, this perfectly describes my situation, manual shift, 2.5.. Also, since I have taken my car out of the country, I am passed the warranty as well. I really thought when I purchased this car that there would be a plethora of aftermarket performance options eventually. I really preferred the Mazda product over the Subaru, Ford, and Honda, and so I rolled the dice and hoped for some aftermarket support. I am thankful for corksport and OVT.. Just a little disappointed overall; Hopefully that will change soon.

 

I think that 1, there is not much interest.... the miata owners get all the attention... (We dont even have drop in cams)

For a turbo not to blow up with this compresion.... well, it will need a lot of work...

 

I think that 1, there is not much interest.... the miata owners get all the attention... (We dont even have drop in cams)

For a turbo not to blow up with this compresion.... well, it will need a lot of work...

 

advance the timing? dish out the pistons? shit, I don't know. 14:1 is HAF

 

Maybe with miata ex cam. Tune an low boost like 7psi. You have a fun car. 270hp to the wheels I would say.

But that is just me having a mental masturbation

I wish there where just a drop in cam. That would get you +15 on top of tune. Maybe from 2.5 or from miata

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I feel like there was a drop in cam available before.. was it CS or OVT?- A search yielded some limited results, but clearly there is nothing available at the moment. How about the cams from the new Skyactiv turbo? They have to make room for boost someplace..
270 would be sick! I would be tickled with 250, thrilled with 200, and happy with 180
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BBR GTi still offers cam shafts for the 2.0L 3. They work with the MX-5 and the 3.

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right, so 13.0:1 on the 2.5, which is a little better.. Still not much room available and I think I remember there being a special cam feature built in that keeps the exhaust port open briefly during the compression stroke? Anyway, could the piston bowl be bored out a little bit to bring it down closer to 11?

 

Thats not how this works.............

 

I am sorry for my ignorance. Are we saying that making more space at TDC will not result in a reduced compression ratio, or are you just suggesting that it will not work?

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The car doesn't run at 13:1 all the time, only at light loads where you would get the best mpg. CR is altered by the ECU holding the valve open at the beginning of the compression stroke. If you change the CR you'll screw up how the ECU controls the engine. Also, if you alter the pistons you'll change the dynamics of the engine, something Mazda went to great lengths to perfect. This motor just wasn't designed to have FI, which is why its proving so hard to make it work.

 

The ECU holds the valve open? Wow, I am really old school, Is it not the cam shaft that controls the opening and closing of the valves? How does the ECU control the CR, air control? Through ignition timing? hmm..

I hear what you are saying regarding engineers, I understand what they were going for as well; they were trying to mimic the high CR of a diesel motor while allowing the use of pump gas without causing detonation. Performance manufactures are always going to come up with ways to increase the output of the vehicle if the market supports it. The idea for expanding the bowles on piston is not a new idea by any means, with this car probably, on others, it is one of the best methods to add volume. Mazda engineers were doing their best to remove it, totally get that since they wanted max pwr and efficiency from NA. The dynamic of the design is such that it provides that maximum CR capability so that more heat energy can be turned into HP. This is fine unless you want FI which Mazda denied us when they traded zoom for a little bit of posh. I love my car, but I am getting bored. OVT said today that they had customers turbo the 2.5 skyactiv with FI independently and have provided tunes.. I am not saying that I have the know how or the balls to pull the trigger, but my finger is getting really itchy!

 

The ECU holds the valve open? Wow, I am really old school, Is it not the cam shaft that controls the opening and closing of the valves? How does the ECU control the CR, air control? Through ignition timing? hmm..

The ECU controls the camshaft timing. The intake cam is controlled electronically with 76° of authority, the exhaust cam is hydraulic with 25° of authority. So when needed, the ECU changes the camshaft timing so that intake stays open part way into the compression stroke, reducing the compression ratio.

 

Fascinating, so compression can be reduced then by changing the ECU perimeters through tuning?